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	<title>Comments on: Mylyn 2.1 released</title>
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	<description>Mik Kersten and friends on focus and flow</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bondage</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-45865</link>
		<dc:creator>bondage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Mylyn has made eclipse completely unusable for me. My computer freezes at 100% cpu whenever I do just about anything. And I can’t disable it with Manage Configuration - keep getting error messages.

Now I have to go through the extremely painful process of downgrading to 3.2."

The FAQ should take care of the problems you are having. I was stumped at first but got everything up and running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mylyn has made eclipse completely unusable for me. My computer freezes at 100% cpu whenever I do just about anything. And I can’t disable it with Manage Configuration - keep getting error messages.</p>
<p>Now I have to go through the extremely painful process of downgrading to 3.2.&#8221;</p>
<p>The FAQ should take care of the problems you are having. I was stumped at first but got everything up and running.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Coelho</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-43328</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Coelho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian, that slowness is not actually caused by Mylyn. You will see that message if anything interrupts the proposal computation. 

Please see "Why do I get an error message when using content assist?" in this &lt;a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn_FAQ#Content_assist_troubleshooting" rel="nofollow"&gt;FAQ entry&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian, that slowness is not actually caused by Mylyn. You will see that message if anything interrupts the proposal computation. </p>
<p>Please see &#8220;Why do I get an error message when using content assist?&#8221; in this <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn_FAQ#Content_assist_troubleshooting" rel="nofollow">FAQ entry</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-43255</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Presuming that any performance bug has now been fixed,

It hasn't.

In an up-to-date 3.5 install, I get massive pauses in code completion, Eclipse then helpfully points out that Mylyn is the source of the slowness. This is despite not having ever used Mylyn, or even being aware it was in the distribution. I can't see any way to uninstall it sort of deleting the jars from the plugins directory.

Very irritating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Presuming that any performance bug has now been fixed,</p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In an up-to-date 3.5 install, I get massive pauses in code completion, Eclipse then helpfully points out that Mylyn is the source of the slowness. This is despite not having ever used Mylyn, or even being aware it was in the distribution. I can&#8217;t see any way to uninstall it sort of deleting the jars from the plugins directory.</p>
<p>Very irritating.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Coelho</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-42022</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Coelho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, it will always be the case that Eclipse includes features that aren't right for everyone but it's important to include features out of the box that many people find useful. Presuming that any performance bug has now been fixed, people who don't want to use Mylyn can simply not use it, as they would with many other features.

I understand your points about the limitations of surveys. However, taking a look at the Galileo downloads as you suggest now shows that people choose a package with Mylyn in it about 85% of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, it will always be the case that Eclipse includes features that aren&#8217;t right for everyone but it&#8217;s important to include features out of the box that many people find useful. Presuming that any performance bug has now been fixed, people who don&#8217;t want to use Mylyn can simply not use it, as they would with many other features.</p>
<p>I understand your points about the limitations of surveys. However, taking a look at the Galileo downloads as you suggest now shows that people choose a package with Mylyn in it about 85% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry West</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-37840</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mik: I've had the same problems with Mylyn (in Ganymede) causing exceptions and apparently slowness on Linux and Windows XP.

And I was unable to uninstall it despite repeated attempts.  Perhaps I didn't remove all the dependencies, but why should I have to guess what depends on Mylin?  I finally uninstalled Eclipse, reinstalled the Classic.  But that involved losing a lot of time.

As to your point of popularity, surveys are always susceptible to various design flaws (e.g., selecting people who would be likely to answer a certain way), so don't rely on them solely, especially if they tell you what you want to hear.

E.g., look at the downloads of Galileo RC3: 7800 people downloaded the only Mylyn-free download (Classic), which is more than all the other configurations combined.    That might indicate something (perhaps a desire for less bloat).

From what I've seen, Mylyn appears to be a pretty cool feature if you need it and are willing to invest the time to use it.   But that doesn't mean it's right for everyone, and, given how easy it is to download and install plugins in Eclipse, unbundling would be the route I would vote for, FWIW.   After all, one only installs once a year (per machine).

Also, keep in mind that the people who don't want to use it, who haven't configured it or touched it at all, just received it as part of a bundle, are unlikely to be motivated enough to grab all the information needed to file a useful bug report on the exceptions and especially the slowness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mik: I&#8217;ve had the same problems with Mylyn (in Ganymede) causing exceptions and apparently slowness on Linux and Windows XP.</p>
<p>And I was unable to uninstall it despite repeated attempts.  Perhaps I didn&#8217;t remove all the dependencies, but why should I have to guess what depends on Mylin?  I finally uninstalled Eclipse, reinstalled the Classic.  But that involved losing a lot of time.</p>
<p>As to your point of popularity, surveys are always susceptible to various design flaws (e.g., selecting people who would be likely to answer a certain way), so don&#8217;t rely on them solely, especially if they tell you what you want to hear.</p>
<p>E.g., look at the downloads of Galileo RC3: 7800 people downloaded the only Mylyn-free download (Classic), which is more than all the other configurations combined.    That might indicate something (perhaps a desire for less bloat).</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, Mylyn appears to be a pretty cool feature if you need it and are willing to invest the time to use it.   But that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s right for everyone, and, given how easy it is to download and install plugins in Eclipse, unbundling would be the route I would vote for, FWIW.   After all, one only installs once a year (per machine).</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that the people who don&#8217;t want to use it, who haven&#8217;t configured it or touched it at all, just received it as part of a bundle, are unlikely to be motivated enough to grab all the information needed to file a useful bug report on the exceptions and especially the slowness.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Kersten</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-33777</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Kersten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alastair, according Eclipse community surveys done by Evans Data Corporation around 1/3 of Eclipse users use Mylyn.  

Any performance problems that you're seeing of this sort sound like a bug or bad configuration in your environment.  We are sorry for your frustration, but have not had this problem reported by others and will need more invormation to diagnose.  Your two best pets are either to download the latest or to submit a support request with details:
* http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/
* http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/support/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alastair, according Eclipse community surveys done by Evans Data Corporation around 1/3 of Eclipse users use Mylyn.  </p>
<p>Any performance problems that you&#8217;re seeing of this sort sound like a bug or bad configuration in your environment.  We are sorry for your frustration, but have not had this problem reported by others and will need more invormation to diagnose.  Your two best pets are either to download the latest or to submit a support request with details:<br />
* <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/</a><br />
* <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/support/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/support/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Rae</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-33759</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still causing major performance probs in 3.4.2, particularly in GUI autocomplete. It is not until you start getting exceptions that you realise the it's mylyn to blame. And it's not that straightforward how to remove it. Pain in the neck. Does anyone really use this ****? Eclipse is getting sooooo bloated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still causing major performance probs in 3.4.2, particularly in GUI autocomplete. It is not until you start getting exceptions that you realise the it&#8217;s mylyn to blame. And it&#8217;s not that straightforward how to remove it. Pain in the neck. Does anyone really use this ****? Eclipse is getting sooooo bloated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-23676</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was bug:

  188524: warnings on startup in Europa
  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188524

Note that this is just a warning and it was not necessarily the cause of the unresponsiveness that you were seeing.  But if you get the latest Mylyn 2.2 release it should go away.  We have also made some additional improvements related to this and startup performance that will be available in tonight's weekly build.

  http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was bug:</p>
<p>  188524: warnings on startup in Europa<br />
  <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188524" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188524</a></p>
<p>Note that this is just a warning and it was not necessarily the cause of the unresponsiveness that you were seeing.  But if you get the latest Mylyn 2.2 release it should go away.  We have also made some additional improvements related to this and startup performance that will be available in tonight&#8217;s weekly build.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sk</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-23674</link>
		<dc:creator>Sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
I'm getting lot of issues with mylyn and eclipse just doesn't respond.and i see lot of errors in the log as below :
!MESSAGE While loading class "org.eclipse.mylyn.internal.tasks.ui.WorkspaceAwareContextStore", thread "Thread[main,6,main]" timed out waiting (5000ms) for thread "Thread[Worker-3,5,main]" to finish starting bundle "update@plugins/org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui_2.1.0.v20070927-0900.jar [313]". To avoid deadlock, thread "Thread[main,6,main]" is proceeding but "org.eclipse.mylyn.internal.tasks.ui.WorkspaceAwareContextStore" may not be fully initialized.
!STACK 0
org.osgi.framework.BundleException: State change in progress for bundle "update@plugins/org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui_2.1.0.v20070927-0900.jar" by thread "Worker-3".
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.beginStateChange(AbstractBundle.java:1141)
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.start(AbstractBundle.java:258)
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.util.SecureAction.start(SecureAction.java:400)
	at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:111)

I have to check disbaling all the mylyn pugins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;m getting lot of issues with mylyn and eclipse just doesn&#8217;t respond.and i see lot of errors in the log as below :<br />
!MESSAGE While loading class &#8220;org.eclipse.mylyn.internal.tasks.ui.WorkspaceAwareContextStore&#8221;, thread &#8220;Thread[main,6,main]&#8221; timed out waiting (5000ms) for thread &#8220;Thread[Worker-3,5,main]&#8221; to finish starting bundle &#8220;update@plugins/org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui_2.1.0.v20070927-0900.jar [313]&#8220;. To avoid deadlock, thread &#8220;Thread[main,6,main]&#8221; is proceeding but &#8220;org.eclipse.mylyn.internal.tasks.ui.WorkspaceAwareContextStore&#8221; may not be fully initialized.<br />
!STACK 0<br />
org.osgi.framework.BundleException: State change in progress for bundle &#8220;update@plugins/org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui_2.1.0.v20070927-0900.jar&#8221; by thread &#8220;Worker-3&#8243;.<br />
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.beginStateChange(AbstractBundle.java:1141)<br />
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.start(AbstractBundle.java:258)<br />
	at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.util.SecureAction.start(SecureAction.java:400)<br />
	at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:111)</p>
<p>I have to check disbaling all the mylyn pugins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Tramadol</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/mylyn-21-released/comment-page-1#comment-23663</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Tramadol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, guys for Mylyn 2.1! It's fantastic work!
Very cool release!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, guys for Mylyn 2.1! It&#8217;s fantastic work!<br />
Very cool release!</p>
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