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		<title>By: Tasktop Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eclipse Foundation Board Elections</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wesley Coelho</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/tips-on-paying-for-free-software/comment-page-1#comment-49679</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Coelho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, glad we could help!</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/tips-on-paying-for-free-software/comment-page-1#comment-49629</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you sir! Now the essay will be awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you sir! Now the essay will be awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Coelho</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/tips-on-paying-for-free-software/comment-page-1#comment-49594</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Coelho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon, the picture of the scale with the clock and money is a royalty-free stock image that can be purchased from: 

&lt;a href="http://www.stockxpert.com/browse_image/view/567003" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.stockxpert.com/browse_image/view/567003&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon, the picture of the scale with the clock and money is a royalty-free stock image that can be purchased from: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.stockxpert.com/browse_image/view/567003" rel="nofollow">http://www.stockxpert.com/browse_image/view/567003</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! We are two guys from Sweden and we´re writing an essay about the global warming. We wonder if it´s okey if we use your picture of the scale with the clock and the money? It would be awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! We are two guys from Sweden and we´re writing an essay about the global warming. We wonder if it´s okey if we use your picture of the scale with the clock and the money? It would be awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Virgil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Mik, I work with Eclipse BIRT as well and often have to articulate the reasons someone should consider the Actuate "pay-for" versions for their project... It seems there is always a balancing act between your time, money, and project requirements to determine how much you should build and how much you should buy. The bottom line I get from this article is that you are always paying for software...even when it's free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Mik, I work with Eclipse BIRT as well and often have to articulate the reasons someone should consider the Actuate &#8220;pay-for&#8221; versions for their project&#8230; It seems there is always a balancing act between your time, money, and project requirements to determine how much you should build and how much you should buy. The bottom line I get from this article is that you are always paying for software&#8230;even when it&#8217;s free.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tasktop Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interview: How Software is Built</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Tasktop Blog » Blog Archive » Tips on paying for free software Software reviews, free software downloads - Free Software</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mik Kersten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mik Kersten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a criticism that came up on a &lt;a href="http://www.dzone.com/links/tips_on_paying_for_free_software.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;dzone post&lt;/a&gt; that I want to address.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Wow if you do not pay for 24x7 support your site goes down at Christmas, yes 3 months from now, because apparently Spring is what keeps it up and running or at least decided whether it should crash or not. Not the OS. Not the application. Not the management tools. Not operations. Without Spring and support your site is dead in the water at Christmas. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My point of view on this, which may or not be the point of view of SpringSource, is that if your web app builds on a framework, that framework, along with the OS, the database, and your application, is responsible for the stability of your app. Since the Spring Framework issue is heated right now, we could also argue this in terms of another framework like .NET. If you just updated or patched your ORM mapping or other database tools, and introduced an incompatibility between that and the framework that fails to manifest itself until pushing production, you could have a problem. If the framework is providing a WS layer for you, you may need security and other patches for that WS layer as exploits become known. In other words, my point of view on this is that so much functionality traditionally associated with OSes and app servers is being captured by the frameworks, especially those that provide IoC, that it helps to think of them as another sort of runtime.</description>
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<blockquote><p>
Wow if you do not pay for 24&#215;7 support your site goes down at Christmas, yes 3 months from now, because apparently Spring is what keeps it up and running or at least decided whether it should crash or not. Not the OS. Not the application. Not the management tools. Not operations. Without Spring and support your site is dead in the water at Christmas.
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<p>My point of view on this, which may or not be the point of view of SpringSource, is that if your web app builds on a framework, that framework, along with the OS, the database, and your application, is responsible for the stability of your app. Since the Spring Framework issue is heated right now, we could also argue this in terms of another framework like .NET. If you just updated or patched your ORM mapping or other database tools, and introduced an incompatibility between that and the framework that fails to manifest itself until pushing production, you could have a problem. If the framework is providing a WS layer for you, you may need security and other patches for that WS layer as exploits become known. In other words, my point of view on this is that so much functionality traditionally associated with OSes and app servers is being captured by the frameworks, especially those that provide IoC, that it helps to think of them as another sort of runtime.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Kersten</title>
		<link>http://tasktop.com/blog/eclipse/tips-on-paying-for-free-software/comment-page-1#comment-29515</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Kersten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding freespring.org, I think that Oleg's comment makes the key points.  In addition, having spent time with Rod and other SpringSource engineers like Christian Dupuis and Juergen Hoeller, I know just how deeply these guys care about serving the needs of the open source community.  The challenge with freespring.org is that it assumes that SpringSource won't do a good enough job serving the communities' needs, whereas I believe that they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding freespring.org, I think that Oleg&#8217;s comment makes the key points.  In addition, having spent time with Rod and other SpringSource engineers like Christian Dupuis and Juergen Hoeller, I know just how deeply these guys care about serving the needs of the open source community.  The challenge with freespring.org is that it assumes that SpringSource won&#8217;t do a good enough job serving the communities&#8217; needs, whereas I believe that they will.</p>
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